Might not make it after all.

[DarkPirateShea]

*sigh*
So. The school that Melody (kitty!) is going to this fall apparently requires her to be at the school the weekend of Dragon Con.

I don't know what to do.

That time next year I don't even know where I'm going to be. I'll be starting my second year of college this August. Then next August I'll be transfering to a school somewhere else. But I don't know where yet. I could end up even farther from the con than I already am.

So if I wait 'till next year, then I could end up paying as much as twice the money to get to the con, and I don't know if I have that kind of money, or if it'd even be worth it. But if I go this year, not only might I be going without Mel, but I'm not sure I'd have anyone to run around the con with.

[sableagle]

Go while you're young and carefree and will enjoy it immensely.

Run around with or without anyone. There's bound to be a pirate wench or a pirate or a Faye Valentine or an art college chick or a catgirl or a pirate ninja catgirl or a fellow DP fan or something, and even if there isn't there are thousands of geeks and a Dragon*Con Goddess to look out for you.

If you're worried about not having anyone to take into the 'bathroom' with you, get a "shenis" or just paper the seat. :dgrin:

The big issue is the hotel room, really. There's a thread with links for hooking up to share rooms somewhere here, or you could probably find some fellow forumites. Noone's going to mess. Between DJ, the ex-British Army guy, the USMC types and the sheer size of JAK, you have quite a collection of Big Sisters and Big Brothers. :dcool:

I still say where you should be in subsequent years is as many countries as possible.

[DarkPirateShea]

You raise good points.

Originally, me and Mel and my dad were gonna be going. We've still got a room booked (cuz I haven't told my dad we may not be able to go yet).

The problems with me going are thus...

Will Mel hate me for going without her?
Would my dad still come?
Will my parents even let me go alone?
If I went alone where would I stay?... cuz I can't pay for a room all on my own... i guess if maybe i found someone else to split the room with...

And yet... I may not get another chance for another 4+ years, depending on where I end up going to school.

[KeegaKurGurk]

well least ur in a better position then i am shea so far i dont see a way to go to any con for the next 10 years but hey maybe ill bet to go then never know lol

i hate being poor and living so far away form anything

[Silverharp]

You raise good points.

The problems with me going are thus...

Will Mel hate me for going without her?

Would my dad still come?

Will my parents even let me go alone?

If I went alone where would I stay?

I don't how your dad wouldn't go still, it just means you meet up with people there and he still does whatever he was planning on doing.

And as for Mel, just ask her! I doubt if she would hate you for going, she would probably bonk you for NOT going if you still had the chance!

If you're still in doubt on a room, get onto the Dragon Con LJ community and starting checking around; people are always looking for roomies. I'd suggest that you make it clear that you want only female roomies (To make your dad happy and encourage the "my little girl isn't shacking up with a strange horny geek" vibe) and make sure that you're getting a room with a bed and not floor space with 10 other people (It's happened)

See where people are going to be the day that you get in, as well. I've got a friend that will be coming for the first time who I'll be introducing around with the "This is our sweety. You see trouble happen, please demolish whoever tries anything with her" speech. If I can get her out of the cosplay areas, that is :P

A lot of us, both here on the DP forum and regular D*Con goers don't take well to jackasses ruining con, and get very big brotherly (And I'll admit, are a sucker for a damsel in distress, even if she ain't a damsel)

[KeegaKurGurk]

hmm wish i had enough to go lol can some one like lend me the money? and come get me lol

[RazorJAK]

A lot of us, both here on the DP forum and regular D*Con goers don't take well to jackasses ruining con, and get very big brotherly

Why's everyone staring at me?

[Crazeyal]

Why's everyone staring at me?
Cause yer blockin out the SUN fatass!!

http://animepower.de/images/smiles/eekout7xz5sa.gif

[KeegaKurGurk]

its cause ur big and hard to look around

[Crazeyal]

FIRST off..

It's a holiday AND a weekend. Why would the campus require her to be there? The staff sure won't be there! What are the consequences of being late to this early gathering? Is it "sign up for classes" weekend or "hurry up and wait" weekend?

Also..

You have 5 more months to gather people to go with you and share expenses. I know Mel is your best friend, but surely there might be other candidates to share a room with.

[meghasissues]

i'll run around with you! i think it's the weekend before i go back to school i'm not really sure but there's no way i'm missing it so if you need someone to hangout with just let me know

[Seolta]

FIRST off..

It's a holiday AND a weekend. Why would the campus require her to be there?

Could be move-in weekend or something, though I think most are moved in before then. And not all colleges get Labor Day off...WU didn't, and my brother's school doesn't.

[DarkPirateShea]

I checked the site for the college. Aug 28 is New Student Orientation, and then the next two days (fri & sat) are Opening Weekend.

So, I guess I need not be concerned about having company if I go. But still, my main concern remains to be "will Melody hate me if I go without her?"

I guess I could just ask her.... send her a text or something... "soooo, how much, hypothetically speaking, would you hate me, if I went to Dragon Con?"

Though it'd be a lot easier if she would just read this thread. But she hasn't been on as much lately so I think that's a useless thing to hope for there.

[Plunder Down-Under]

Personally, Im pretty sure Kitty! isnt a jerk, so I doubt she'll hate you for having a good time. Spite is for loserz!

[KiaKat]

I'd be happy to run around and be nuts with you. I might have my boyfriend along, but he's easygoing and always good as a protector. 6' 1" and unassuming, but grew up in a shady area of NYC during the late 70's/80's. Very streetwise, and a total geek.

[KeegaKurGurk]

nice to bad i wont be there to say hi to you ppls (i know i wont have enough money to go)

[asianmommy]

Shea,
It'll be my, and my fiancee's first time at the con this year, and we'll be looking for someone to show us round, if you want company. I don't know if we've really bet but, HI!!!! I'm friendly and I only bite when asked.

We're driving up from Orlando for anyone in between us and the con who might want a ride/share costs/etc.

[KeegaKurGurk]

gah i hate lvin in oregon lol im to far away from everyone els to get a ride :P

[asianmommy]

gah i hate lvin in oregon lol im to far away from everyone els to get a ride :P

wow... you're really far away. :( you should quit that and come live on the east coast.

[sableagle]

Departing Portland 23:45 26th Aug, arriving Atlanta 17:35 29th Aug,
departing Atlanta 06:00 2nd Sep, arriving Portland 16:25 4th Sep:

Refundable Fare $408.00
7-Day Advance Purchase $278.00
14-Day Advance Purchase $258.00

Greyhound for the whiff!

Why wait until you're at the convention to grow a con funk? Arrive with yours already fully developed!

[KeegaKurGurk]

yep to bad its a good 6 hr drive to portland from where i am lol so id end up at the greyhound station already smelling like a bum off the street :P

and yes i should totoaly move to the east coast iv already seen most of the west and have hardly ventured passed michigan to the east

[DarkPirateShea]

OK sooooo, turns out you were all right.
Mel is fine with me going.
Not that I needed her permission or something, but I care about her opinion.

So I'm going!
Now, I just gotta talk to my dad about this. It'd be awesome if I could just go by myself. He was only really coming to be our chaperone anyway, cuz Mel is 17 and my mom didn't want us driving that far on our own. But statistically, I'm safer with a bunch of strangers anyway. :D

What would be awesome, though I have no idea how probable, is if I got my parents to let me go by myself and then I could share my room/room cost with any of you who weren't able to get a room in one of the host hotels, cuz I have a room reserved at the Hilton and might need help paying for it. Either that or just group up with someone else who has a room in one of the host hotels.

[Shryke]

you should concider burning man, pennsic, or any number of other summer festivals. If you go to pennsic I can get you into a good camp. I'm friendly with several.

[Farler]

You can always come to my place. We can make our own festival... though I might still go to the con

[KeegaKurGurk]

lol farl

[Silverharp]

What would be awesome, though I have no idea how probable, is if I got my parents to let me go by myself and then I could share my room/room cost with any of you who weren't able to get a room in one of the host hotels, cuz I have a room reserved at the Hilton and might need help paying for it. Either that or just group up with someone else who has a room in one of the host hotels.

I can see if my friend who is going would want to split room cost on hers at the Hilton if you like? Two con virgins in one room is always fun

[RazorJAK]

Not touching that one with a 12 1/2 foot pole ... nope nope nope

[KeegaKurGurk]

but what if i wanan touch it with your 12 1/2 foot poll?

any way that sounds kinda funny both statments that is
:P

[Shryke]

I have no ambition for Sheas dainty mcdainties. my girlfriend would get mad.

I know several clans that she would probably get along with, and 2 weeks at pennsic would be a good substitution for dragon con. the parties are epic, the events are in credible. and it's much cheaper than DC. perfect for college students.

[KiaKat]

Where and when?

Now you have piqued my curiosity.

[Shryke]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pennsic_War
pennsicwar.net

last week of july first week of aug.

[Crazeyal]

but what if i wanan touch it with your 12 1/2 foot poll?
:P
HEY!!

Quit peeking!!

:dmad:

[KeegaKurGurk]

but but but it hard not to peak

[Crazeyal]

damn kilts..

[KeegaKurGurk]

hehehe i must have me a kilt whenst i get a change to go to D*C

[DarkPirateShea]

AUGH! *tears out hair*

My mom seems to think I'm too stupid to go to Dragon Con on my own.
Ok, so she said "naive female", but still.

She seems to think that everyone on the internet is evil and she is aboslutely against me sharing a room with anyone at all because apparently they're going to steal me blind. And the fact that I trust you particular people is aparently a huge fault in myself.

I really didn't want to go with just my dad cuz that just brings my whole mood down. I wanted to have fun and be free and on my own dammit! :wall:


*sniff*

edit: this is seriously not helping with my already-depressed mood.

[Silverharp]

Go with your dad, let him talk to the older of us here who are willing to say hi and alleviate any doubts that he may have about the con, and go have fun!

[RazorJAK]

Go with your dad, let him talk to the older of us here who are willing to say hi and alleviate any doubts that he may have about the con, and go have fun!

... Seconded ...

Your dad will either be entirely reassured about your safety after talking to the older people here; or will never let you out of his sight.

[KiaKat]

I've often been told I present well to parents. Usually it's those around me who are being looked at askance.

Oh, if they only knew...

[Silverharp]

Might want to make it early evening, before we're too happy on go juice to not go "Sure we'll watch your daughter, have you SEEN that ass?"

....I'll go back to my corner now.

[KiaKat]

Might want to make it early evening, before we're too happy on go juice to not go "Sure we'll watch your daughter, have you SEEN that ass?"

....I'll go back to my corner now.

Ok, *I'm* scared now.

I thought that was just me who did things like that.

*blink*

Cool.

[DarkPirateShea]

He actually wants to go. Which also sucks. Cuz it was sorta ok when Mel was going cuz the two of us were gonna have our own room and we were gonna just go off and do our own thing apart from my dad. But now since Mel can't go, if my dad goes then it's just gonna feel like I've got someone keeping tabs on me all the time. And I hate that.

I just really wanted to go on my own.
And my mom pretty much laughed at me when I so much as asked for her opinion on it.

[Crazeyal]

One thing about over protective parents. You DON'T assuage their worries by reacting negatively. You are trying to garner roomates. Keep it up. Try for people they know. Strength in numbers. Try to get some conversation going in between some of the people you want to meet and your parents. It's also in how you present things.

"There's this crazy guy who paints himself red and acts like a pervert, who gives REALLY good advice, surprisingly..." probably won't cut it.


Rather try it like:
"One of the people who I'll be meeting is a professional bouncer/security guard. He's already volunteered idiot removal services, plus he's friends with this Ex-Marine (I know I know. but civilians say it all the time!!) who's in the Security industry who say's he'll watch out for me.."

[Crazeyal]

And Shea..

I know it's not cool and all... but hanging out with your dad can actually be FUN.. TALK to him. Let him know you want some "exploring" time, that you won't be "completely on your own, accepting drinks from strangers, heading into unknown hotel rooms" yadda yadda yadda.

[Seolta]

AUGH! *tears out hair*

My mom seems to think I'm too stupid to go to Dragon Con on my own.
Ok, so she said "naive female", but still.

She seems to think that everyone on the internet is evil and she is aboslutely against me sharing a room with anyone at all because apparently they're going to steal me blind. And the fact that I trust you particular people is aparently a huge fault in myself.


Hm...would it help for one or more "responsible adult" types to talk with your parents ahead of time, even if it's just via IM or over the phone? If it helps any, I've done the "chaperoning young collegy-types at D*Con" thing before (year before last my little brother and some of his friends(including at least one female) came with us, and as I mentioned before one of the roomies and I both have little sisters around your age, and do the "protective big sister" thing pretty well).

I understand their concern...Atlanta's a pretty big place, and if you were just being turned loose on the city there'd most definitely be room for worrying, but Dragon*Con is pretty self-contained, and full of Good People(tm), so while it's still somewhat big-and-scary, it's less so when compared to other possibilities.

[Crazeyal]

Hm...would it help for one or more "responsible adult" types to talk with your parents ahead of time.
LOL

OLD folks think alike.. huh??

:al:

[DarkPirateShea]

All I started with was "people I've know for a while online".
And she asks "have you met them".
I say "no", cuz I haven't. But I tell her that a lot of you have met each other and I can tell you are good people.
But apparently that's not good enough.

And Al, my dad did 20 years in the army and currently works at the pentagon. I don't think the ex-marine thing is gonna mean squat to either of my parents.

And I got a good impression from my mom that she wasn't so much concerned with the city as she was with the people at the con.

[Seolta]

And I got a good impression from my mom that she wasn't so much concerned with the city as she was with the people at the con.


Again, though, understandable...the only reason my brother was allowed to go the first time was that a) I had a friend off-site for us to stay with, and b) he had an older sibling(two, actually, since the other brother went to Ga. Tech) to look out for him. I got to go un-chaperoned for similar reasons, and my mom freaked out over SOLAR when she heard about it, with arguments like "what if someone decides it's 'in character' to rape you or something???"...she has since mellowed out, but it's taken time. Going with your dad's probably not that bad an idea, the first time out...if he's at all geeky there'll be plenty for him to enjoy without cramping your style too much, and I'm sure a few of us who're good at acting respectable would be willing to act as ambassadors...

[DarkPirateShea]

Yeah I guess.

The way my mom reacted still really bothers me though. I mean, she literally laughed and said I couldn't go on my own cuz I'm a "naive female". The way she kept saying that, it was like she might as well have just called me a stupid child.

I really hate it when she does this. It was the same thing when I asked her about a tattoo. I talked to her for years about getting one, and spent a long long time coming up with the perfect design. And then when I finally draw something that I think is perfect for me, she starts going on about how people that show off their tattoos are all bikers and outlaws. That totally threw me, like wtf. That was the last thing I expected out of that woman's mouth.

But the same thing pretty much happend here when I asked her what she thought about me going to Dragon Con on my own. I don't want to grow up to be my mother. Sure she's good-looking for her age. But she's boring. She's never done anything. If I were her, I'd feel like I'd missed out on a lot. Screw biological clocks, and screw starting a family and owning a home. My parents seem cool and interesting but they aren't. They're boring and unadventurous and I never want to be that.

Sorry for ranting there but I needed to get that out. Cuz I'm like crying, and I never f#&%ing cry. And now I'm out of tissues and there's no one to talk to cuz it's too late and I should really go to bed anyway cuz I gotta get up for stupid school in the morning and you guys can really just ingore most of this post cuz I really hate sounding angsty and it's getting off topic anyway and I don't even know why I'm pressing the "post" button. *headdesk*

[KiaKat]

*hug*

We've all been there. Go get some sleep and we'll all discuss this in the morning, when things are a little calmer.

Al, you really have some great advice. Seems to be completely implementable, and easy to put forward as a plan. I think there are going to be enough responsible adults there that we can easily steal Shea away for some geekery.

[Seolta]

And then when I finally draw something that I think is perfect for me, she starts going on about how people that show off their tattoos are all bikers and outlaws.

She should meet my evil twin(friend/coworker)...:jbdevil: College grad(or will be in another couple of months), has worked in a public library(which would also make her a government employee) since before graduating highschool...and has nine tattoos(some more visible than others) and a pierced eyebrow.

[RazorJAK]

And Shea..

I know it's not cool and all... but hanging out with your dad can actually be FUN.. TALK to him. Let him know you want some "exploring" time, that you won't be "completely on your own, accepting drinks from strangers, heading into unknown hotel rooms" yadda yadda yadda.

And seeing as your dad is closer to our age than you are ... never know ... we might make him one of the gang.

[Silverharp]

My mother still lives in Minnesota not 50 miles from where she grew up and thinks that at 36 I'll ruin my life if I have a beer.
She's happy where she's at, just like your mom is. Best you can do is talk to them like adults, try to reason with them and work out comprimises whenever possible, but you'll always be her little girl.
That doesn't mean that she doesn't trust you, just that she's afraid for you, and in some ways can't understand your decisions because they're so different from the ones that she made

[Silverharp]

And seeing as your dad is closer to our age than you are ... never know ... we might make him one of the gang.

Let's get him in a Utilikilt.

[RazorJAK]

Mwahhahahahhahhaa

(- Mine is an evil laugh -)

[Plunder Down-Under]

I want a utilikilt. Stupid ocean.

[Evandril]

All I started with was "people I've know for a while online".
And she asks "have you met them".
I say "no", cuz I haven't. But I tell her that a lot of you have met each other and I can tell you are good people.
But apparently that's not good enough.

And Al, my dad did 20 years in the army and currently works at the pentagon. I don't think the ex-marine thing is gonna mean squat to either of my parents.

And I got a good impression from my mom that she wasn't so much concerned with the city as she was with the people at the con.

Meh, I know I'd be reassured if a Marine had said they'd make sure one of my kids stayed safe...And I'm AF, we're required by regs to sneer at 'em ;)

I'll echo what others have been saying, the more maturely you take their decisions, the better chance you have of them paying attention to what you ARE saying...And from how it sounds, you're doing well so far.

If your mom won't BE there...I won't quite say blow her off, but remember 'twill be your dad determining how much you'll be doing, once you get there...:)

[DarkPirateShea]

And seeing as your dad is closer to our age than you are ... never know ... we might make him one of the gang.

or, how 'bout we not?

I'm betting I could ditch him at the hotel room anyway. In a nice way though. More like "I'm gonna head downstairs and check stuff out." than "I'd rather not have you knowing where I am so bye!"

[DarkPirateShea]

Meh, I know I'd be reassured if a Marine had said they'd make sure one of my kids stayed safe...And I'm AF, we're required by regs to sneer at 'em ;)

Ah, yeah, but my parents have met enough people in the military to know that you can still be a complete asshole even if you once wore a uniform.

[Plunder Down-Under]

or, how 'bout we not?

I'm betting I could ditch him at the hotel room anyway. In a nice way though. More like "I'm gonna head downstairs and check stuff out." than "I'd rather not have you knowing where I am so bye!"
Tsk, Kids these days

[asianmommy]

It also might make them feel better that there are people who are going to be around your age too, no offense to everyone who is older, but maybe they're worry is someone who is older is going to take advantage of you. I know that my parents would feel more comfortable with people my own age who are responsible.

My advice, as a daughter who is constantly around her dad (because she works for him), they just want to get to know you a bit better. He might see this as a chance to do that. If you don't want that, talk to him, try telling him that this is something you really want to do on your own now that you're (fill in age here) and an adult, but that the two of you can do something together before/after.

And if that doesn't work, let him come to con, see you're safe, and maybe he can go find something else to do while he leaves you with the DP group. (My dad would hate that tho, because he doesn't like to be alone)

[sableagle]

... my mom freaked out over SOLAR when she heard about it, with arguments like "what if someone decides it's 'in character' to rape you or something???""Then my British soldier friend is likely to decide it's in-character to wring the dumb bastard's neck. Any further questions?"

Heh.

Shea, it sounds like your mother is freaking out because anyone who goes to Dragon*Con must be a weird, freaky pervert. There is probably no way to persuade her that they're not, but it is a supervised event full of Americans, with American door staff and American security and a ban on alcohol and lockable doors ...

... and if it came to a choice between that and a camping holiday in Europe where they eat weird food and talk foreign languages and you're old enough to drink and they didn't even support invading eye-rack, she might just put you in your father's pocket and order him to take you to Atlanta and keep you there.

I was also going to suggest that someone with a Scottish accent show up and talk her into making it a family trip for all three of you. Then I realised that the showing up part would make things worse.

[DarkPirateShea]

My advice, as a daughter who is constantly around her dad (because she works for him), they just want to get to know you a bit better. He might see this as a chance to do that. If you don't want that, talk to him, try telling him that this is something you really want to do on your own now that you're (fill in age here) and an adult, but that the two of you can do something together before/after.


Hah, it's got nothing to do with spending time with me. He wants to go to the convention. He's as much of a geek as anyone else here.

[asianmommy]

Hah, it's got nothing to do with spending time with me. He wants to go to the convention. He's as much of a geek as anyone else here.

Not something you wanna share with him?

[Crazeyal]

She's 18!!!

Comon... even COOL parents are hard to take at that age!!

:lol:

[RazorJAK]

She's 18!!!

Comon... even COOL parents are hard to take at that age!!

:lol:

Depends on the parent I think. My dad was always the life of the party.

I get the non-snarky side of my sense of humor from him.

[Shryke]

If someone at solar decided that rape was in charector, would he:

have to get his "weapon" cleared by the folks running the larp.

Have the weapon made safe by coating it in multiple thick layers of pipe insulating foam.

Have to utilize his womans lore card, grappleing card, and then would he have to roll saving throws against her calling out to any of the armed yahoos roaming around?

Try to get her drunk on the local "Booz", or should he "Poison" her.

Larp raping sounds neither threatening or simple. sounds damn silly to me.

[Seolta]

If someone at solar decided that rape was in charector, would he:

have to get his "weapon" cleared by the folks running the larp.

Have the weapon made safe by coating it in multiple thick layers of pipe insulating foam.

Have to utilize his womans lore card, grappleing card, and then would he have to roll saving throws against her calling out to any of the armed yahoos roaming around?

Try to get her drunk on the local "Booz", or should he "Poison" her.

Larp raping sounds neither threatening or simple. sounds damn silly to me.

In actuality? The minute anyone on-site got wind of even a plan to do something of the sort, the person(s) doing the planning would have their collective asses handed to 'em and likely be banned from the game. There's no rape in SOLAR, in <i>or</i> out of play.

[Shryke]

sounds about right, I was thinking of how to sass parents, not an actual plan.

[Crazeyal]

Depends on the parent I think. My dad was always the life of the party.

Yeah.. but it's usually the TEENAGERS that have the problem, not the 'rents.

Besides..

You make ME look normal!!

[sableagle]

You make ME look normal!!Nothing in this world could make YOU look normal! (http://www.thedevilspanties.com/d/20050214.html)

[Crazeyal]

I am NOT calling you SWEETIE!!!

It's Schnookums or nothing!!

[DarkPirateShea]

Not something you wanna share with him?

Don't get me wrong, my dad is cool and all. I don't mind him at all most of the time. But the thought of going to Dragon Con by myself was such a nice feeling of freedom. And that feeling was just sort of crushed rather suddenly. But that's what I get for being an optimist.

I just wanna... escape. Get away from everyone I see all the time and all the routine things. It's getting more and more temping every morning to just skip that turn into the school parking lot and just keep driving.

That's what I wanted Dragon Con to be.

[Shryke]

go elsewhere this summer. go to burningman, go tothe beach, go to playa del fuego, go to renn faire, have fun!

[Silverharp]

The locale isn't the point, my man, it's being able to do her own thing as an adult without have parental one looking over her shoulder.

And if they're getting this bad over D*C, do you REALLY think they'd let her do burning man without an sign from the gods?

[DarkPirateShea]

well hell i'm going to renn faire anyway. it overlaps my b-day.
but i do that with my friends.

besides, Dragon Con on my own was kinda like a way to escape from... here, and still be guarunteed a place to stay and awesome people that'll recognize me.

edit: yeah, what Silver said there.

[KiaKat]

Hm.

Ideas are forming, mostly involving having your father meet me and my boyfriend, and then the two of us stealing you to visit NYC at some point. I have a habit of doing that :dgrin:

[asianmommy]

yeah, at 18 i wanted NOTHING to do with my parents.

Oh well, I might have to kidnap you, Shea, and then smuggle you away with all of us (I'm small and sneaky, and undetectable. :dgrin:)

[Shryke]

if you're on a military base there will be an sca group there. they will have parents, and families, respectable people. hang out with them. go to pennsic with them. plenty of parties, plenty of people to meet. it will all seem on the level to a dad. more than going to a convention in a big city.

I know I'm a broken record, but it is cool. like renn fest on crack.

[DarkPirateShea]

Eh, if I wanna do LARP I could. I've got a friend that goes to one that's closer and more frequent. It's... um, oh, Darkon. He said he goes every other sunday.

But anyway, yeah, I'm all for the kidnapping.

[RazorJAK]

Fine, the wee lil asian kidnaps you.
Us old fogies will kidnap your dad, get him inebriated on Dragon*Con "pie", and get him all kilted out.

[KiaKat]

*snicker*

I'll join the girls. We'll grab leashes and collars and go hunting.

Wheee!

[DarkPirateShea]

Fine, the wee lil asian kidnaps you.
Us old fogies will kidnap your dad, get him inebriated on Dragon*Con "pie", and get him all kilted out.

I'm afraid to ask about the "pie"....

[Silverharp]

Hun, if your dad is that big a geek, he'll get to Dragon Con (Also known as the Geek Mecca) and lose himself in the fun.

You've got multiple individuals here in your age group, old broken geeks like myself who watch out for the young uns, and overall good people.

He'll come around once you two get there, and maybe he'll be able to help convince your mom that you're not a baby girl anymore, and CAN make informed decisions by yourself.

[RazorJAK]

I'm afraid to ask about the "pie"....

I'm still afraid to ask about the "pie". But it is delicious and, unlike the cake, is not a lie.

[asianmommy]

Whooo! I get to Kidnap Shea and run around Con with her and Kat and leashes and boys!

[KeegaKurGurk]

You people need to make a special trip for poor fold like me :( i wouldnt mind runing around on a leash hell id prolly think its fun

[DarkPirateShea]

I still gotta figure out what I'm gonna wear.

Cuz there is no way I'm going to a convention and not dressing up all awesome. It'd be a total waste of cuteness.

[asianmommy]

I still gotta figure out what I'm gonna wear.

Cuz there is no way I'm going to a convention and not dressing up all awesome. It'd be a total waste of cuteness.

Somehow Shea, I doubt you ever waste cuteness, but I agree, a good outfit will be necessary. something with places to attach the leashes.

[sableagle]

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c61/anastasthetraveler/Motivational%20Posters/motivatorHildegardSC.jpg

http://members.tripod.com/~RogueSquad/bio.gif

http://www.hermionegrangerswand.com/images/hermione.jpg

http://www.carltondrama.org.uk/chronicle/2005_02_pics/wednesday_addams.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/185/414204279_6bce92f9e0_m.jpg

http://www.the-reel-mccoy.com/movies/1998/images/zorro_zeta-jones.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/24/Princess_Mononoke_Japanese_Poster_(Movie).jpg

http://www.lipglossandlaptops.com/uploaded_images/tinkerbell-773659.gif

http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/2199/bgc2040wall4001152006nu5.jpg

http://tn3-2.deviantart.com/300W/large/indyart/anime/Taio-Faye_Valentine.jpg
http://tn3-1.deviantart.com/300W/fs7.deviantart.com/i/2005/192/c/e/Fan_Art___Faye_Valentine_by_angelafking83.jpg

http://durbinmedia.com/brandstorming/uploaded_images/prettywoman5-782910.jpg
http://images.eonline.com/eol_images/Articles/20071119/425.roberts.prty.wmn.111907.jpg

http://www.finddisney.com/images/ticket/Snow%20White%20Postcard.jpg

http://images.quizilla.com/V/Victimsarentweall5/1052078442_tureslee23.jpg
http://images.quizilla.com/T/TheManlyFarmer/1057210865_dEricSarah.jpg

http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2004/11/05/Zhang-Ziyi,0.jpg

http://www.supershadow.com/starwars/pictures/1/princess_leia_gold_bikini.jpeg

OwowowowOWowOWOWowOW!!!

[asianmommy]

http://www.devilspanties.com/forums/showthread.php?p=31031#post31031 and http://durbinmedia.com/brandstorming...an5-782910.jpg

Cuz KZJ is just hot and no one will ever make a better hooker who finds love than Julia.

[sableagle]

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n285/Aidan0001/Hope.jpg

*flees Leffy*

[Farler]

Don't get me wrong, my dad is cool and all. I don't mind him at all most of the time. But the thought of going to Dragon Con by myself was such a nice feeling of freedom. And that feeling was just sort of crushed rather suddenly. But that's what I get for being an optimist.

I just wanna... escape. Get away from everyone I see all the time and all the routine things. It's getting more and more temping every morning to just skip that turn into the school parking lot and just keep driving.

That's what I wanted Dragon Con to be.

*takes a gold watch out of his pocket and just sort of swings it about muttering the word Canada*

[DarkPirateShea]

*gasp* awesome list sable. let's see....
too comlicated, maybe, could totally do that one, thought about that, don't have the figure, meh, don't wanna go blonde, no idea who that is, or that, ...lol, dude mel has the perfect hair for that, that might be interesting if I made the character a girl, meh, and I totally wish I had the body for that bikini

nice ideas

and Farler, if I ever really do decide to just take off one day, I'll be sure to head north.

[Farler]

and Farler, if I ever really do decide to just take off one day, I'll be sure to head north.

Too bad you'd need to take a few days off... looked it up in the map it's about a day and an hour to drive here from there.

yeah google said 1 day and 1 hour... which I assume means 25 hours or so... maybe not though.

[DarkPirateShea]

Yeah that's why I said "just take off" instead of "planned trip".
Cuz that means I'd just be ditching whatever classes I might have. And I only work a few days a week anyway. Usually Thurs, Fri, Sat kinda thing. There would be no renting of hotels, or planning of any sort. "Just taking off" means I'd just decide on impluse that I was just gonna keep driving instead of going whereever my original destination was going to be (school, store, whatever).
Or there might be a little planning. But nothing more than throwing some clothes in a bag and stopping at the bank for money (don't have any cards, I live on cash).
Esentially it's like running away but I plan on coming back.

[Plunder Down-Under]

If I ever just took off.. I could last a very long time on $1000 assuming I had a car.

[sableagle]

Four girls are the main cast of Bubblegum Crisis Tokyo 2040, and the one in the gold mini-jacket and shorts with the red shirt over her elbows is Faye Valentine of Cowboy Bebop.

I think Eric Draven would be a pretty good choice for impact value, or Sarah for the "Do you recognise my costume?" factor.

[DarkPirateShea]

The Crow would be cool. But I don't they make leather pants in my size, lol.

I also love this outfit:
http://www.megatokyo.com/strip/1103
http://www.megatokyo.com/strip/884
Not sure how I'd do the hair though. Mine is really long.

Oh! What about Lily from Legend? Wish I could find a good pic of the dress...

[KiaKat]

Bobby pins. There are a number of sites out there that describe how to shorten long hair for costume purposes. Go google it.

Especially with the headband, it shouldn't be too difficult.

Or you could buy a wig and pin your hair up underneath it.

[asianmommy]

I was thinking maybe something like this:
http://www.megatokyo.com/strip/1103
http://www.megatokyo.com/strip/884
Not sure how I'd do the hair though. Mine is really long.

Oh! What about Lily from Legend? Wish I could find a good pic of the dress...

Those pics are cute, and that outfit would be even cuter. do your hair up if you're gonna do it. maybe with a twist so that the top of the ponytail fans over the top/back of your head. would be cute.

[DarkPirateShea]

Oh yeah I know how to do the back. I put my hair up with bobby pins all the time. But she's got bangs in the front. Also there's the purple. A wig would probably be better.

But for Dragon Con I think maybe something less anime anyway. So maybe not that after all. Might be a good last resort though seeing as I think I own most of that outfit anyway.

[sableagle]

The Crow would be cool. But I don't they make leather pants in my size, lol.It wouldn't be inappropriate to get some that don't fit and "adjust" them with a knife and a roll of black duct tape.

[DarkPirateShea]

Ah, yes, good point sable.

Hehe, anyone feel like making me a dress (http://web.ics.purdue.edu/~aslider/Legend/LEGEND-500.jpg)?

[sableagle]

*click*

*STARE*

:didea::dgrin::licker::eek:

Double-sided sticky tape would definitely be your friend.

Umm ... I think I could make that, but I don't know much about taking measurements, so I'd be limited to drawing on you with eyeliner and measuring along and between lines of that ... and hoping ... and it'd still need the tape if you were planning on moving around.

[Evandril]

*gets the buckets ready for the after effects of that link*

Not that I think it'll help much, but still ;) Wonder how many people's mind just happily shorted out?? :al:

[KeegaKurGurk]

yea thats an awesome dress
(I love that movies costumes)

[DarkPirateShea]

geez you people act like you've never seen the movie before (I really hope you have btw).

I found a site that actually gives really good details and picture references for the dresses from that movie. Unfortunately, both dresses (the white/yellow and the black) have all this detailed trim and beadwork on them, which would be difficult to do.

But then I found this other awesome site with all this awesome clothing on it. And boots (http://www.gypsymoon.com/productDetail.php?pid=523)! I totally want those boots. But oh my are they ever expensive.

[Evandril]

Shea...The dress from the movie wasn't the main thing...was *you* in that dress ;)

And, yes, seen it, own it, used to be able to quote a good deal of it ;)

[Farler]

geez you people act like you've never seen the movie before (I really hope you have btw).
Silly girl it's not the picture it's the imagining YOU in THAT dress. I Personally am still hung up on the idea of you knocking on my door saying "Hi, can I stay for a while?" and all the trouble we could get into before you head back.

[DarkPirateShea]

Oh.
I just liked that for once I wouldn't need uber boobs to pull off a movie character costume. Cuz Mia Sara (actress who played Lily) was only 15 when they made that movie.

Haha, Farler that reminds me of that one scene from "The Girl Next Door"..... "I'm all wet can I come in?" (http://www.imdb.com/media/rm370251776/tt0265208)
It's just the sort of cruel thing I'd do.:dgrin:

Oh. My. Gawd.
I just discovered steampunk.
I knew my style had a name!
It's all so pretty.:drool:

[domino]

http://www.gypsymoon.com/images/dynamic/saleTest/722.jpeg

i want those boots (but with out the red/orange sole)...too bad they arent in my size...stupid size 6/6.5 feet..:mad:

[DarkPirateShea]

Eh, you can always just wear thick socks. Boots tend to be a size up anyway cuz you gotta have room to get your foot in. Like me, my sneakers are a 5.5 in boys I think. But my boots are all 7s.

And there's also the fact that those boots are $548.
Everything on that site is expensive. But it's all so pretty! The only reason I'm not broke now is cuz I don't have any means of buying things off the internet.

[Farler]

Oh.
I just liked that for once I wouldn't need uber boobs to pull off a movie character costume. Cuz Mia Sara (actress who played Lily) was only 15 when they made that movie.

Haha, Farler that reminds me of that one scene from "The Girl Next Door"..... "I'm all wet can I come in?" (http://www.imdb.com/media/rm370251776/tt0265208)
It's just the sort of cruel thing I'd do.:dgrin:



It's only cruel if nothing happens afterwards, and chances are Id open the door after taking a shower and frankly you'd jump me long before Id jump you in that case.

[DarkPirateShea]

It's only cruel if nothing happens afterwards, and chances are Id open the door after taking a shower and frankly you'd jump me long before Id jump you in that case.

Well now I think we're getting a little over confident here....

[Crazeyal]

Well now I think we're getting a little over confident here....
He means he'd shyly avert his eyes to your nubile teen nakedness, sit in a corner and BLUSH

:lol:

[Silverharp]

Reminds me of a funny Dragon Con story:
Turns out many of the HOT women who come to D*C to get a little geek lovin leave unsatisified in that account, as any time they go after a geek and talk geeky, they either get ignored a being "just girls" or once the topic goes to "So, want a blowjob" or something as direct, said geek usaully either came in pants and slinks away or just runs off with a failed sanity check.

[RazorJAK]

Reminds me of a funny Dragon Con story:
Turns out many of the HOT women who come to D*C to get a little geek lovin leave unsatisified in that account, as any time they go after a geek and talk geeky, they either get ignored a being "just girls" or once the topic goes to "So, want a blowjob" or something as direct, said geek usaully either came in pants and slinks away or just runs off with a failed sanity check.

Heh, I can sorta relate. But only due to the fact that I flirt HARD without meaning to. So I tend to be completely oblivious if a girl is truly interested in me unless she actually states things in words that overt.

I've chatted with so many girls after con and have had to ask, "What? you were actually hitting on me when we were flirting? DAMN!"

[asianmommy]

Heh, I can sorta relate. But only due to the fact that I flirt HARD without meaning to. So I tend to be completely oblivious if a girl is truly interested in me unless she actually states things in words that overt.

I've chatted with so many girls after con and have had to ask, "What? you were actually hitting on me when we were flirting? DAMN!"

I can relate to this, especially with girls. I was flirting with this waitress once... turns out she's straight. hah!

[Plunder Down-Under]

geez you people act like you've never seen the movie before (I really hope you have btw).

I havent, though as my teacher would say its probably because i have a "Sad miserable wasted life" :p

[Farler]

Im oblivious to flirting, but I definatly wouldn't cum in my pants if someone was that direct.

[Seolta]

Hehe, anyone feel like making me a dress (http://web.ics.purdue.edu/%7Easlider/Legend/LEGEND-500.jpg)?

I could use the work/challenge/portfolio-filler...though then the question would be whether you could afford me ;)



Oh. My. Gawd.
I just discovered steampunk.
I knew my style had a name!
It's all so pretty.:drool:


Hehehe...my "crew"(see pics from last d*con) has decided we're doing steampunk-pirate this year. And possibly a couple of other things(gender-bent 18th-century League has been bandied about, but we lack males in period drag), but we'll see.

[Plunder Down-Under]

Im oblivious to flirting, but I definatly wouldn't cum in my pants if someone was that direct.
Its a... actually im not sure what it is, I dont think it's a metaphore... more of an exaggerated stereotype thing?

[Silverharp]

Sometimes yes, somtimes it's an actual reaction.

[DarkPirateShea]

Its a... actually im not sure what it is, I dont think it's a metaphore... more of an exaggerated stereotype thing?

I belive you mean a hyperbole (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperbole).

[Plunder Down-Under]

Thats the one, Im out of highschool I dont need to know this crap!

[Farler]

Sometimes yes, somtimes it's an actual reaction.

Yup. Sometimes the offer isn't enough but you get varying degrees. Some guys do it on the first kiss, the first time they touch a boobie... the TRULY unfortunate cum in their pants right before they get to take them off.

Personally never had THAT problem... Ive got the opposite one though. Though it does make for hours of fun... I think I just need to find the right girl. Or possibly Im gay. Either way...

[sableagle]

... or you just need to stop humping after an hour or so and give her a chance to rest for a while, then resume when she's ready. You can still kiss, hug, stroke, caress, lick, nibble, tongue, mouth, suck, graze, scratch, scritch, touch, hold, cup, manipulate, finger, thumb, rub, tickle, nuzzle .....

Personally, I think the sex should be an extension of the kissing, not the kissing a prelude (or route) to the sex, but that's just me with my old-fashioned ideas.

[Plunder Down-Under]

Kissing weirds me out

[asianmommy]

Kissing weirds me out

Really?

[KeegaKurGurk]

Kissing weirds me out
Then I know what im doing when I see ya Plunder :P

[Farler]

... or you just need to stop humping after an hour or so and give her a chance to rest for a while, then resume when she's ready. You can still kiss, hug, stroke, caress, lick, nibble, tongue, mouth, suck, graze, scratch, scritch, touch, hold, cup, manipulate, finger, thumb, rub, tickle, nuzzle .....

Personally, I think the sex should be an extension of the kissing, not the kissing a prelude (or route) to the sex, but that's just me with my old-fashioned ideas.

Yes, you can still do all those things but I was dating a girl who couldn't ever go twice in a week because it hurts afterwards for awhile (at least that's what I always got told) so when we did it for 3 hours or so and I was still not finished I kind of had to quit. And she never wanted to do anything to finish me off so... there I was. I never pressed her to finish me off, cause that'd be wrong but it would've been nice. A few times she let me finish myself off on her but...

That eventually caused problems since she really didn't like it but decided that NOT telling me there's a problem is better then letting me try to fix it. since me trying to fix things ussually ends with me going too far and hurting myself for being unable to change.

Yeah I know, Im a self hating psycho.

And when I did get it from a girl who might let me finish I never wanted to cause I didn't love her and we only ever did things when I was depressed and too vulnerable to say no. Or when I wanted to use her and then I couldn't let myself go any further cause I felt guilty over using someone like that.

Yup... *head desk* and i really wanna drag someone else who's sweet and innocent through this? oh yeah. There's a good plan.

[KiaKat]

*pats head*

So we'll find you someone slightly corrupted.

[DarkPirateShea]

*glomps Farler* PIGGYBACK!!!

Sorry but I felt that some cheering-up was needed and that was my first thought after I read your post.

[Farler]

*pats head*

So we'll find you someone slightly corrupted.

Just remember the slightness. Cause I need someone nice and caring and clingy. I like clingy, I do very well with clingy.

[Farler]

*glomps Farler* PIGGYBACK!!!

Sorry but I felt that some cheering-up was needed and that was my first thought after I read your post.

WEEEEEEEE! not the clingy I meant but... damn you're light! what do you way like 10lbs soaking wet!?

[DarkPirateShea]

WEEEEEEEE! not the clingy I meant but... damn you're light! what do you way like 10lbs soaking wet!?

100lbs tyvm.

[KiaKat]

Just remember the slightness. Cause I need someone nice and caring and clingy. I like clingy, I do very well with clingy.

I'm sure we can do that. We just need someone who's innocent, twisted, and clingy. But no one worship-desiring. No putting girls on pedestals.

Hmm...If you're at DC, maybe we can auction you off.

[Farler]

100lbs tyvm.

so... you're literally one of the lightest things Ive ever had on my back and shoulders...

[DarkPirateShea]

We just need someone who's innocent, twisted, and clingy.

I got.... two outta three! Close, but no cigar.

[Farler]

I got.... two outta three! Close, but no cigar.

well... close enough to get a little bit of cigar from time to time eh?

[Plunder Down-Under]

which 2 are you?

[Farler]

Innocent and twisted. Not clingy.

[Plunder Down-Under]

Innocent and Twisted seem like mutually exclusive traits

[KiaKat]

Hi, Plunder. Have we met? Let me introduce you to the other women scattered through this message board. We're all twisted, yet somehow still quite innocent.

At least to the best of your knowledge.

[asianmommy]

Hi, Plunder. Have we met? Let me introduce you to the other women scattered through this message board. We're all twisted, yet somehow still quite innocent.

At least to the best of your knowledge.

I agree, I think that a lot of the people on this board have that kind of mix. Innocence and a twisted streak.

[Sehson]

Not all...

Me, Jak, and AL have never been innocent:dgrin:

[DarkPirateShea]

Ah yes but see, I'm a true innocent. If ya know what I'm sayin....:jbangel:

And of course we all know I'm twisted, I mean really, just look at the avatar picture.

But clingy, no. I'm too independent for clingy in extended doses. It makes me feel trapped and constricted.

[KeegaKurGurk]

I agree, I think that a lot of the people on this board have that kind of mix. Innocence and a twisted streak.
Who said i was ever inocent or twisted?
But i could be clingy. :P

[asianmommy]

Who said i was ever inocent or twisted?
But i could be clingy. :P

You are definitely twisted :p

But, hey, who am I kidding, me too. Without being twisted, life wouldn't be as much fun. (And a bit innocent, and I can be very clingy...)

[KeegaKurGurk]

No i cant be twisted!!!
But if you precive me as so then how am I?

[sableagle]

Ah yes but see, I'm a true innocent. If ya know what I'm sayin....:jbangel:You've still got a free pass to the unicorns' tea party?

[Plunder Down-Under]

Thats why I Italic'd the word seem

DUH!

[RazorJAK]

Not all...

Me, Jak, and AL have never been innocent:dgrin:

Not true! Not true! I was innocent at one time.

Then I was born.

[DarkPirateShea]

You've still got a free pass to the unicorns' tea party?

*nods* myup

[Sehson]

Not true! Not true! I was innocent at one time.

Then I was born.

Sorry Jak...

I've seen your pictures I don't believe you... You were not innocent even before you steped into that pre-embryotic flesh shell your mother birthed, and has since often cursed along with your siblings..:dp:

[DarkPirateShea]

http://www.lipglossandlaptops.com/uploaded_images/tinkerbell-773659.gif

Kitty! and I and another friend went dress shopping for our non-prom the other day. I was so tempted to get this dress (http://a326.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/21/l_373a6f1121e575a0235e771f64611d2d.jpg).
It was kinda expensive though.
But I coulda added some wings (the ones in the pic are drawn on, lol) and run around D*C barefoot. Hehe.

[Crazeyal]

eh..

You can hit the second hand shops just after Prom and get MUCH weirder versions for 1/10th the price!

[DarkPirateShea]

Maybe. I usually wear a 2/3 and that's not really the most popular size. Might check out the second hand shops after prom season anyway though, might find some interesting stuff.

[Crazeyal]

Well the thing is, plenty of ladies DON'T get rid of their prom dresses the first year.. or the second yadda yadda yadda. But a couple of years down the line, when the roadway is clogged with Limos on the way home from work...

*sigh*

I remember Prom..

*GRUNNNNNT*

DAMN THIS THING SHRUNK!! I'M GIVING IT TO GOODWILL!!

Hmmph!

:lol:

[Falconess]

Dang it Al! How did you find out how I got rid of my prom dress?! 'Cept, I had no delusions of my dress shrinking.

[Crazeyal]

Same reason I know it was quite a few pounds LESS than you think it was. I do something strange and wonderous to the women in my clutches...


I LISTEN TO THEM


MWHAHAAH :evilgrin::al::evilgrin:MWHAHAAH

[kitty!]

My dress is very very pretty and I was kind of shocked when I discovered my dress size.

Of course the day previous I had a melt down because seemingly overnight none of my bras fit properly. I should have known.

Edit: Also; I am the Fairy Queen, and Shea is a steampunk pixie. We rule the fantasy realms along with the Elf King who has a sordid affair with a purple-hued mortal who has a giant pig as a steed.

[DarkPirateShea]

I know, seriously woman, your boobs are huge now.
*looks down at chest*
*sigh*
If only you could share.

response edit: Heck yeah!

[kitty!]

And you can't tell I'm currently a half step away from overweight according to BMI charts. For serious. It's all situated *ahem* in the right places.

I'm hoping Weight Training is to blame for some of the weight gain.

edit : edit response: you know it!

[Seolta]

Actually tried mine on t'other day, since I was sorting through clothes and such...still fits from the ribcage down, but bust has gone up about a cup and a half in the past 7 years, so...couldn't quite zip all the way up. I was pleasantly surprised at how well it did fit though...and as I designed that sucker and my mom and I made it, it's not being got rid of any time soon.

[RazorJAK]

And you can't tell I'm currently a half step away from overweight according to BMI charts.

FUCK BMI!

According to the BMI, I am "morbidly obese". Yeah, okay ... whatever.

[Plunder Down-Under]

I couln't afford to buy my prom suit but I wish I could, It was awesome.

[kitty!]

BMI is a bad indicator, but doctors like to give me and my sister unfounded crap about our weight because we have a family history of all sorts of weight related diseases. But we're healthy. *shrugs* Doctors are funny.

[Crazeyal]

Yeah.. People forget that they are human just like the rest of us. They may need massive amounts of studying and testing to get to a position of authority... But in the end most of them guess their way through the day like everyone else. Unfortunatly when a mechanic screws up an oil change, the car gets %#$ up. A Doctor makes a repetition error and people can and have died.

That.. or they fart alot... :rolleyes:

[Plunder Down-Under]

But also remember, when the doctor gets doom and gloom on you, he generally knows more about how your body works than you do and they should be working in your best interests.

I wasnt naive enough to write absolutes(they DO know, they ARE working for you).

[DarkPirateShea]

Heh, I'm going to the doctor today. *glances at clock* Make that an hour and a half -ish. I don't own a scale so I get to find out how much I weigh. I have a feeling I'm not going to be happy with it cuz it'll probably be more than last time. And unlike kitty! my chest has not been growing exponentially. :d(:

Also gotta remember to ask the doc about how alcohol works with my pills, cuz i noticed a bit ago that there is that nifty little "do not take with alcohol" sticker on the bottle. So I gotta find out if that means that I just shouldn't take my pills the same day as alcohol, or if I should not take the pills for a few days to make sure it's all out of my system.

[KiaKat]

Not to be nosy, but which pills? Some of them say that, but it's because the effect can be enhanced by alcohol. Others, alcohol can actually impare the functioning (like with antibiotics) and should be avoided entirely during the course of treatment.

If they're antidepressants, depending on which kind, I've never noticed much difference whether I'm drinking or not. Though I've just weaned off my most recent treatment (7 years worth) and it seems like I'm probably off for good this time. Well, unless I'm prone to PPD...then I'll probably go back on.

[DarkPirateShea]

I take Dexdroamphetamine (or Dexadrine) for ADD. Since it's a type of amphetamine, I have to go in for an appointment everytime I run out of pills cuz they don't give refils on stuff like that.

Antidepressants I wouldn't be too concerned with, cuz those are a lot simpler. But Dexadrine is a stimulant and I'm not sure how that would react with alcohol. Also my mom had to go and mention to me that they knew someone who died from that, so I'd prefer to make sure now.

I totally forgot to ask though.:wall:
I'm kinda stupid today. Burnt my finger on the cigarette lighter in the car about 10 minutes ago.:cry: And before you ask, no, I don't smoke, I'm just stupid.

Also, I found I weigh 103. It's more than I'd like, but I won't complain cuz I'm sure you all hate me now already. :o

[asianmommy]

I totally forgot to ask though.:wall:
I'm kinda stupid today. Burnt my finger on the cigarette lighter in the car about 10 minutes ago.:cry: And before you ask, no, I don't smoke, I'm just stupid.

Also, I found I weigh 103. It's more than I'd like, but I won't complain cuz I'm sure you all hate me now already. :o

awww, poor finger. :(

and 103, you weigh about what i do, and i understand what you mean about it being more than you like because if it's more than you usually have then it's strange. but if you're all tall, and all that weight is stretched out more, then I think it's better to keep as much meat/fat on your bones as possible. at about 5' it's not so bad to weigh 103ish because i look... mostly healthy. :D

[DarkPirateShea]

Yeah I'm about 5'3". So I look... thin I guess... *shrug*
But I've got more of a tummy than I used to, which bugs me cuz I like wearing half-shirts and I don't think people should wear those unless they've got a nice stomach.
I also just kinda liked being able to say I weighed less than 100lbs.

[asianmommy]

Yeah I'm about 5'3". So I look... thin I guess... *shrug*
But I've got more of a tummy than I used to, which bugs me cuz I like wearing half-shirts and I don't think people should wear those unless they've got a nice stomach.

uh huh, i know what you mean about having more of a tummy. don't lose weight, do ab-ercizes and actually gain muscle weight, but look great!

[DarkPirateShea]

heh, yeah I would, but I can't stand just straight "working out", I gotta be doing something. I like to bike ride in the summer, and I've been taking a dance class this semester but it only meets weekly.

[Falconess]

Yeah I'm about 5'3". So I look... thin I guess... *shrug*
But I've got more of a tummy than I used to, which bugs me cuz I like wearing half-shirts and I don't think people should wear those unless they've got a nice stomach.
I also just kinda liked being able to say I weighed less than 100lbs.

My sister used to weigh less than 100lbs (at 5'5") and she was devistated when she broke 100. However, she's still freakin' skinny, and wears stuff that accents what curves she does have, quite well too. My suggestion, crunches. I'd suggest taking up opera singing, but that might be taking it a bit far. Start with the crunches ;)

[asianmommy]

My sister used to weigh less than 100lbs (at 5'5") and she was devistated when she broke 100. However, she's still freakin' skinny, and wears stuff that accents what curves she does have, quite well too. My suggestion, crunches. I'd suggest taking up opera singing, but that might be taking it a bit far. Start with the crunches ;)

For even hinting at opera singing you get a hug ::hug:: and a hundred points.

[DarkPirateShea]

I would love to take up singing, and I believe I could, if I knew where to start.
I was playing Rock Band up at the school recently (they had it set up with the "gaming tournament") and after I sang this one song, a guy came up and asked me if I sang in a real band. :D
As my mom put it, I have a big voice for my size.

[KiaKat]

I was 5'2", 105lbs for many years, mainly because I was a field hockey captain and ski-team enthusiast during HS. I didn't put on weight (or curves) until I hit 22.

Shea, you're probably a late bloomer. Don't go by what you weigh, go by how your clothes fit, and how you feel. I ballooned to 140, and am now down to 120, though I could stand to lose a bit more fat around my middle.

If you go by weight, then once the curves kick in (look at your mother and both your grandmothers to find out if you're going to have any), you'll get really depressed.

And RE: Dex...I was on that for misdiagnosed ADD (if you have it, it's a great med, if not, it makes the OCD that much worse) for a couple of years. It doesn't really interact w/alcohol that much, as long as you aren't pounding back shots of 151 as a chaser to the pills.

What's your dosage? That makes a big difference.

EDIT: I was also anorexic, although I did eat enough that I never dropped below 98.

[DarkPirateShea]

Its so hard to tell how I'll turn out by looking at my mom and grandmother. I know I take after them, but my grandmother has danced all her life, and still does, and is stick thin. But my mother was thin until my youngest sister was born, my mom got sick during the pregnancy and also had a bad reaction to some medication, which resulted in a lot of weight gain. She's lost most of it by now but she still is not skinny.
Neither of them are curvy though. I'm pretty positive I'm never going to get curvy.

OCD, you say?? Trich is related to ocd... *slowly moves hand away from eyebrows*...

I take 20mg. Though technically it's 15mg extended release, and 5mg... not extended release.

[Falconess]

Heh, singing was my life for a long time. When I hit college, I took up voice lessons 'cause my grandfather was paying for it. That alone was enough to tighten the muscles under the flab. It's possible to have a toned stomache and still be flabby, unfortunately. Now, I work on burning the fat off, with the crunches, on the weight machine, after work. But when you're 5'2" and hit that 180 mark, you freak out and do crazy stuff. I did manage to avoid the eating disorders, but I did get a gym membership and now I hit it every day after work, and I changed the way I eat. My body can't even handle fast food anymore.

Shea, if you don't know where to start, check out the college for non-music major voice lessons.

[DarkPirateShea]

Shea, if you don't know where to start, check out the college for non-music major voice lessons.

Yeah that was my thought too.

[KiaKat]

15 and 5? Wow. That's...a lot.

I second the voice lessons. I took them (intending to become a professional classical singer) in HS, but couldn't get into any music schools because I didn't have enough performance solos in my resume. Stupid tiny private school with no connections.

In terms of being skinny vs curvy, what matters is finding a style that's right for you and making it feel good.

[DarkPirateShea]

15 and 5? Wow. That's...a lot.

Is it really??
I'd gotten the impression (though I don't know where from) that it wasn't...

[KiaKat]

Yeah. 5 is generally considered a starting dose, and most people take either 5 or 10, extended release. If it's the extended, it should be a slightly lower dose than if it's a straight shot.

Or at least, I think so. Keep in mind, my diagnosis was rescinded about a decade ago. Turned out to be a mixture of being excessively bored, overly creative, OCD, and with several different flavours of anxiety.

[DarkPirateShea]

Ah ok. Well I probably did start out with that. But I've been taking these since 5th grade. So that's like... 8-9 years (can't quite remember how old I was). And I think I remember having them up the dosage at least once or twice over the years.

[KiaKat]

Ah, ok. *nods* That makes sense. Increase in dosage due to tolerance is different.

Wow. Ok, I'm distracted. There's a cartoon penis running across my TV.

[DarkPirateShea]

Wow. Ok, I'm distracted. There's a cartoon penis running across my TV.

omg you're watching that too?! lol

[KiaKat]

Don't you love South Park?

EDIT: OH SHIT IT'S SINGING!

[DarkPirateShea]

lol, that was my thought too.

[Goltotoo]

Not true! Not true! I was innocent at one time.

Then I was born.
I've seen your pictures...
You mean this one?

[domino]

I was 5'2", 105lbs for many years, mainly because I was a field hockey captain and ski-team enthusiast during HS. I didn't put on weight (or curves) until I hit 22.

Shea, you're probably a late bloomer. Don't go by what you weigh, go by how your clothes fit, and how you feel. I ballooned to 140, and am now down to 120, though I could stand to lose a bit more fat around my middle.

If you go by weight, then once the curves kick in (look at your mother and both your grandmothers to find out if you're going to have any), you'll get really depressed.

I'm just hopeless regarding any REAL curves... my mother, both grandmothers are either curvy or VERY curvy, all my sisters had their curves by 17... I get depressed about my future figure in teh opposite way...

And here i was finally getting hints of hips and curves at 20...took BC pills to get me to a 34A and 115lbs at 23. I almost had a crisis moment when teh scale first went over 105lbs...and all the increase in weight seemed to settle in m upper thighs and bottom (mostly the thighs). *sigh* no cleavage here....

And Shea, just remember, on a smaller frame...a little can end up looking like a lot with the right and properly fitted clothes

[Plunder Down-Under]

It's true, I've seen it happen. It bewildered me!

[kitty!]

I don't know why Shea is so emo over her figure, I'd kill for her body. Everything looks amazing on her!

[Crazeyal]

pics or it didn't happen!

:evilgrin:

[DarkPirateShea]

That's cuz I know how to dress to flatter my figure. I'm good at buying clothes that look awesome on me and I know what I can't wear.

Like this shirt (http://www.goodgoth.com/4160802.jpg), it's awesome, but I couldn't pull off that neckline cuz my chest is too small and it'd hang all open everytime I leaned forward, lol. But then something like this (http://www.goodgoth.com/7220706.jpg)would look really nice with my waistline.

It's all about being picky with your shopping. Not only does it save you money, but you end up with a closet full of stuff that looks really great on you.

edit: pics of what??

[kitty!]

edit: all the fashionable stuff looks amazing on you. and even the not-so-fashionable stuff. You in a normal sized teeshirt makes you look damn right huggable.

[DarkPirateShea]

woman, there are an endless amount of things you would look awesome in too. you just insist on wearing a t-shirt and jeans all the time. :p

and me in a t-shirt is meh. not very noticable. I like being noticable.

[sableagle]

Well, heck, you in that black number leaning forwards would be noticeable! :dp:

If you don't want to be noticed that way, there must be something else that'd work. Heck, Falconess makes stuff at cost of forumites and I could do with some pictures of hot 18-yr-olds wearing my designs ... for publicity and/or portfolio use. Pick one ... or two ... I probably can't afford all of them, but we could go halves on some or something.