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DarkPirateShea

03-03-2008, 11:33 PM

ok, I'll put this bluntly...

My webcomic: <insert life here> (http://www.drunkduck.com/insert_life_here/)

This other webcomic that I came across today when I typed my comic's name into the search box on thewebcomiclist.com: Insert Life Here (http://www.insertlifehere.net/) (don't be fooled by the current page, it's a guest strip. my art is better!)

The problem is that they seem to be an older comic than me. And they have an independent site and stuff. And I thought I was being original dammit!!

I like my comic name though. I put a lot of effort into thinking it up.
I'm not really sure what to do here...

toreador

03-04-2008, 11:40 AM

do 100 stips and grab copyrights then he/she cant say a thing since you copyrited the name first, it would be a pain since you made such a nice banner that i added lol

DarkPirateShea

03-04-2008, 07:18 PM

hmm, that might work. i just searched the u.s. copyright site and the name doesn't seem to be taken as of yet. do i need 100 strips first? or is it just a good idea to have at least 100 first?

Sehson

03-04-2008, 11:45 PM

copywriting comes down to whom has the most money.

there is a fee to file, however they have you on being around longer. typically this sort of thing is seen in big business arena.

But just be prepared if you try and fight it out. chances are nobody wil care just be a little confused.

toreador

03-04-2008, 11:46 PM

you just need enough for a book full so 100 of your longstrips is more than enough considering a most webcomic books are less than 50 on book one.

EDIT: i just did a little checking, your name is slightly difrent due to the < > arrows so it doesnt count as the same thing so i dont think theres a need to worry about it for now. if you want more about copyrighting then should listen to this.
http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/talkCast.jsp;jsessionid=5E362F0A1758697CD3CB5CC75B DDA3B5.prod72_5?masterId=49535&pageNumber=1&pageSize=15 ep 3, poor mans copyright though the other eps are fun too and jennie even gets a couple of mentions

Plunder Down-Under

03-05-2008, 07:36 AM

Would it be inappropriate to say that comic is on my list now?

DarkPirateShea

03-05-2008, 01:28 PM

:d/: You're not helping, Plunder.

That talkshoe thing was useful though. Thanks.

DarkPirateShea

03-06-2008, 04:06 AM

Ok, soooo...
dude that owns the other comic messaged me about the title.

So now I gotta think up a new frikin title for my webcomic. *grumble*

I mean, I figured I would have to anyway. I even pulled out my list from when I was originally thinking up a title. There just isn't enough difference between "<insert life here>" and "Insert Life Here" for this all to work out. So I was pretty much planning on getting to work on changing it anyway.

But, what I want to know is how did the guy find my comic? I mean really, he couldn't've found out on his own, cuz what are the odds that he randomly finds it now, right after I find his comic? I'm not pointing any fingers, cuz maybe there's something I've overlooked here that someone can point out for me. Or maybe it is just a coincidence in timing. But I can't get it out of my head that you all are the only one's that I've mentioned this to.

Crazeyal

03-06-2008, 06:41 AM

Creators usually Google themselves to see if anyone is talking about their work.

DarkPirateShea

03-06-2008, 11:24 AM

Yeah but I find the timing very coincidental. I've had the comic up for a good number of months now.

Marty Nozz

03-06-2008, 01:05 PM

I've looked at your comic, but not the other on. The only reason you'd have to change you title is if they came first and if there are glaring simularities in the comics. Your title is slightly different and the fact that you published your comic on the web works as a copywrite. If there are no glaring simularities between the content of your work, don't worry about it and go on about your business. If there is, then you probably should change the name.

So, if there aren't, and you keep the name and guy decides he wants to be persistent about this. Tell him to go play in his sandbox, and you'll stick to yours. As long as he can't prove that you attempted in any way to copy his idea or content then he doesn't have a leg to stand on.

Sehson

03-06-2008, 02:13 PM

Yeah but I find the timing very coincidental. I've had the comic up for a good number of months now.

weblogs...

they say alot of things such as who visited your site and where they came from.

being that you visited his site and being that you posted links here to both sites it is possible someone went directly from your site to his. which is going to be a big WTF when he goes looking through his logs.

if your a conspiracy theorist you really don't want to know what kind of things a website can know about you...:shhh:

RazorJAK

03-06-2008, 04:13 PM

if your a conspiracy theorist you really don't want to know what kind of things a website can know about you...:shhh:

Which is why I enjoy visiting gelbooru before going to sites like foodtv.com or hgtv.com ... just to fuck with the status quo.

sableagle

03-06-2008, 05:51 PM

It's also why I tend to put a comment before any links to a .gov website. They're sure to be logging referrer URLs, aren't they?

"Anythin' new?"
"Just more people browsing the most wanted, a few text logs from people posing as 14-yr-old girls on sex chat sites and about two hundred hits from some site called The Devil's Panties. I've no idea what that's about. The firewall won't let me view it."
"I'll have to check with the supervisor ... or the intern."
"The intern's probably the better bet."
"Yeah. Want me to have her bring you a coffee?"

DarkPirateShea

03-07-2008, 12:37 AM

There's also the fact that he used the phrase "it has been brought to my attention". Which leads me to believe someone told on me.

But even so. He had the name first, and his comic is more established. And although there is a slight difference to the names, it's just symbols. and the symbols don't really translate to things like web adresses and spoken word...

So, I'm working on thinking of a new comic name now.
Suggestions are welcome.

Farler

03-07-2008, 02:08 AM

Call It Lolipop!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Crazeyal

03-07-2008, 02:41 AM

Milady..

The title you describe decries a common thread among teens. "Here I am.. Now what??"

The idea is to promote empathy in the reader. Everyone has been awkward, everyone has "weird" friends.

But you AREN'T everyone...

You are Unique.

You are strange.
You are Femme.

Yes.. this is a common theme.. but only in the circle de `ART...

Therefore.. I offer this as a title to your artwork.

Normally Strange

I think it suits you.

Farler

03-07-2008, 02:53 AM

DarkPirateShea

03-07-2008, 04:46 AM

Why coriander?

And after some narrowing down, this is the list I came up with while waiting for psych class to start today.
~Slightly Psychotic
~Just Crazy Enough
~Something Like Normal
~Slightly Off Center
~Brain Bleach
~Optional Extras
~ (and of course Al's suggestion) Normally Strange

Plunder Down-Under

03-07-2008, 07:10 AM

My favorite is Slightly Off Center, not sure why

RazorJAK

03-07-2008, 08:33 AM

I like "Optional extras" and "Normally Strange".

Sehson

03-07-2008, 03:12 PM

eh join the 2... "Optional Nomimally strange extra's"

sableagle

03-07-2008, 05:17 PM

My favorite is Slightly Off Center, not sure why

Probably because you're mildly eccentric.

Sehson

03-07-2008, 05:46 PM

who around here isn't????

sableagle

03-07-2008, 09:12 PM

That guy in the middle there.

DarkPirateShea

03-07-2008, 10:59 PM

*holds up hands*
No wait stop!
Don't go off topic yet!
I'd still like more opinions on the comic titles please!

Crazeyal

03-07-2008, 11:11 PM

I like mine best (o' course..:al:) but the only other one I think works is "Something like Normal". The theme of the comic is "Slice of life" with a bit o college weirdo thrown in. But.. it's a little too close to the other comic.. you should break free from any comparison.

DarkPirateShea

03-07-2008, 11:32 PM

I like to think of the theme as "my life if you filtered it though my brain first".

sableagle

03-07-2008, 11:58 PM

"As viewed from Me"

The red hair dye does make the hand-waving a little more effective.

Erm ...

*eats vanilla ice-cream*

Okay, that didn't help.

Nope, still no ideas.

Are we meant to vote on the list?

"Something like Normal" would be my choice.

"Within One Standard Deviation"?

DarkPirateShea

03-08-2008, 12:14 AM

Sehson

03-08-2008, 12:39 AM

how about.......

"Suggestions are welcome" :dgrin:

Farler

03-08-2008, 02:07 AM

I'm taking tallies on votes from the list, but I'm also writing down any suggestions that I think are okay.

Good comic titles are generally, short (no more than maybe four words), clever, and they flow well. Whenever I'm trying to think of whether something sounds well as a comic title, I always try saying it in my head in a sentence. Like, " Do you read ______ ?"

Do you read coriander?
yeah I read coriander!
are you guys talking about coriander? that comic is awesome.

and why coriander... cause I like it!

anyways, speaking off combining titles. I like optional normality. Since normally strange conveys more the sentence that this comic is nomally strange, which isn't that good of a selling point.

Optional normality. Voting wise I told you what I think last night. If you need a reminder though you can always ask.

Happenis likes just strange enough.

domino

03-08-2008, 03:18 AM

my suggestion - "Oddly normal"

DarkPirateShea

03-08-2008, 04:44 AM

Coriander is a pretty word, but it's got no meaning behind it. Google says it's an herb or something.

And I don't much like the word "Normality", it doesn't flow well as part of a title.

"Oddly Normal" sounds like something that would work when I first read it, but then after I think about it, it kinda makes it sound like it's a comic about normal people. Which it totally isn't.

Plunder Down-Under

03-08-2008, 04:49 AM

Rampant Abnormality?

Crazeyal

03-08-2008, 05:02 AM

Rampant Normality
Just a lil' bit normal..

Life imitates stART

Seolta

03-08-2008, 05:12 AM

Of the options offered thus far, I'm rather partial to "Something Like Normal"...
Other suggestions:

Images May Be Closer
This Side of Normal
Mixtura (From a favorite quote of mine by Seneca, "Nullum magnum ingenium sine mixtura dementiae fuit."(There has been no great talent without an element of madness.)

William

03-08-2008, 03:54 PM

I'm finding myself liking "something like normal" or probably a stupid idea but it relates to what you were saying about it being reality if passed through your brain first. So how about "Shea goggles" you know like beer goggles instead it's shea instead of beer...I'll be quiet now.

Plunder Down-Under

03-10-2008, 06:28 AM

Truth

kitty!

03-14-2008, 12:18 AM

"The Standard Deviation"
"Little Like Life" or "A Little Like Life" if you need it to make loads of sense.
"Simply Strange"

DarkPirateShea

03-14-2008, 04:08 PM

Ok, it's sort of a thought process, with lots of adding and removing and movign around, so here is the new list as of this moment. With some of Melody's ideas in there too. You guys tell me what your opinions are.

~Slightly Off Center
~Something Like Normal
~Something Like Strange (?? a deviation of the one above)
~Strange Candy
~Brain Candy
~Simply Strange
~A Little Like Life
~Advocating Adventure
~Lucid Moments (not sure this is quite right, but it seems like a good start to a thought process)

edit: add- Screaming From Home
-Candy From Strangers
remove- Strange Candy (taken)

sableagle

03-14-2008, 04:48 PM

I like "Something Like Strange".

Kevin

03-14-2008, 09:05 PM

Man, I really liked Brain Bleach. Anyway, I went to your site and read all your strips so I could think of things that made sense. After reading I realized that might not be what you're after. :dp: Anyway, here are a couple of ideas.

~Food for Neurosis
~My Universe
~Mash Your Head
~Screaming From Home
~Wicked Candy
~Laugh While You Burn
~It's in Your Head Now

I enjoyed your comic. Good luck! :)

KiaKat

03-14-2008, 09:22 PM

I like A Little Like Life and Lucid Moments.

jameslgrant

03-14-2008, 09:56 PM

Mix 'em up.

- Screaming Universe
- Mash Your Candy
- It's In Your Home Now

sableagle

03-14-2008, 09:58 PM

Laugh While Your Screaming Candy Mashes My Burning Head? No ... too long.

RazorJAK

03-14-2008, 11:18 PM

Laugh While Your Screaming Candy Mashes My Burning Head? No ... too long.

Also it sounds like the name of an emo band, or one of their songs.

DarkPirateShea

03-14-2008, 11:21 PM

Lol, yeah sable I'd say that's a bit too much.

Nice suggestions Kevin. I like Screaming From Home, I'll add that one to the list.

I've just got these written on a peice of notebook paper and I'm just making tallies by the ones that people say they like. So anybody that can just pop in here and say they like one or two from the list moreso than the others is very very welcome to do so.

Or in other words: Give me your opinions!! Don't make me get the plunger!

RazorJAK

03-14-2008, 11:34 PM

Plaid Zucchini!

DarkPirateShea

03-14-2008, 11:39 PM

I've actually already had a suggestion very similar to that one.

My sister heard us talking about the "Yellow polka-dot bikini" song when shopping for baithing suits a while ago. But what she heard instead was "tiny dot zucchini". My mom suggested that as a title.

But let's stay away from vegetables in this case.

domino

03-14-2008, 11:56 PM

I like "a little like life"

and "somthing like normal" is 2nd choice

Seolta

03-15-2008, 01:48 AM

"Something Like Normal" gets my vote...

"Strange Candy" is kinda-sorta taken by Okashina Okashi (http://strangecandy.net), in addition to being the title of a Laurel K. Hamilton book.

"Candy from Strangers" might make an interesting comic name, though...

DarkPirateShea

03-15-2008, 03:24 AM

Ah, ok, that's good to learn.

I like that last one though.
Strange Candy shall be replaced on the list by Candy From Strangers then.

kitty!

03-15-2008, 03:46 AM

Just to let ya'll know, "Something like Strange" "Simply Strange" "Lucid Moments"
"Advocating Adventure", and "A Little Like Life" = me being awesome and throwing titles at Shealynn.

But my faves

1) Advocating Adventure (I loooove alliteration XD)
2) A Little Like Life (dittoooo)
3) Lucid Moments (I like the feel of it.)